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October 2nd, 2009 admin No comments

Elliot Wave Theory - Pedicting Market Direction for Profit

Elliot wave theory has a huge and devoted following and is being described as advanced technical analysis and the key to un locking market behavior and predicting the future.

Let’s look at it in more detail and why Elliot Himself could not make money from the theory.

The theory was named after Elliott himself, who concluded in his book “nature’s law” something all traders would love to know.

He concluded that:

The movement of financial markets could be predicted by observing, and identifying a repetitive pattern of waves.

Of course there are repetitive patterns in nature and we all know that, but how do we use them to trade?

We know that at some time in the future, we will see a Sunny Day when we go outside, the REAL question is when exactly?

So, markets are cyclical, but that doesn’t mean you can predict them in advance and that means in specific time frames.

What we want from an investment theory, is the EXACT timing of a specific event.

Elliott wave theory is put forward as objective investment theory but this is a contradiction in terms as there is nothing objective about it.

The whole theory relies on the subjectivity of the person using it!

You need to look at peaks and troughs, (various time frames) and then make a subjective judgment on where prices are going to go next.

That’s up to you.

Elliot Wave Theory

Is according to Elliot based on rhythms found throughout nature and these of course apply to financial markets to.

He then makes the observation that:

The financial market moves up in a series of five waves and down in a series of three waves.

Elliott wave principle however neglects the most important part we all want to know:

The time requirements for a cycle to complete.

In Elliot wave theory there is no time requirement.

The subjectivity is so great in Elliott wave that a thousand different people will all come to different conclusions, so this can hardly be called an objective theory as it’s all subjective.

Like most of the far out investment theories, everything is explainable in hindsight, however we don’t trade in hindsight - we have to predict what will happen next in real time.

In conclusion:

Elliott says that you are able to predict the market with his theory- but then gives you no objective way of doing it.

Who uses Elliott Wave?

1. Investors who want an easy way to make money, and are taken in by great advertising copy – well it is a good story!

2. The far out investment crowd attracted to the mysticism of objective laws in nature and the markets.

Predictive and subjectivity are contradictory!

The Elliott wave theory is a predictive theory which predicts nothing at all and leaves everything to subjective analysis.

If Elliott had worked out a predictive theory then he could have be kind enough to give us an objective way to make money.

If all investors could predict the market in advance, we would all know what was going to happen - and there would actually be no market at all, as we have said previously.

Did Elliot leave a track record of stunning gains?

Of course he didn’t - in fact he died a pauper, so he obviously couldn’t use his own theory like the rest of the people who try it

You can predict one certainty with Elliot Wave

The only thing you can predict with certainty with Elliot wave theory, is that you will get wiped out in the markets.

Predictive theories are hard when you actually have to decide market direction with no objective help!

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Unknowable: Could we fathom the great sea of existence of which we are merely a transient wave?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Have a great day!

You know, that's a good analogie for the way that presentism defines the past and the future. Presentism is the view that only the current moment exists, as opposed to eternalism, which states that, to borrow your terms, the great sea of existence (temporally speaking) is all equally existent.

There is a theory in calculus that says that any single wave, no matter the shape, can be thought of as the addition of many other infinite waves. By studying the fine details of a particular wave, it would be possible, in theory, to calculate the whole of the ocean's waves. Now the degree to which one wave actually affects the others in a calculable manner is tempered internally by the uncertainty principal and also by outside influences (such as the pull of the moon, which causes the shifting tides and is a major influence on waves).

This is more of an analogy, as mathematics permits finite waves with no effects beyond the local. However, in physics, if you examine any small region of the world, it is intimitely connected in quantum mechanics to every other section. We normally think of each electron, proton, and neutron as individual things. However, they are more accurately described in quantum mechanics by a single wavefunction that includes all of them. If you have 2 electrons in space, one cannot determine which is which, they can only be described by a single 2-electron wavefunction.

Also, with time, if you examine the entire present state of the universal wavefunction, that defines the state of the wavefunction at any time in the past. It also defines every possible future state, although which future will actually come to pass is still undetermined.

So from our merely transient wave, as we travel through time, we can fathom the great sea of existence. We can't know all the details (including some VERY big details), but we can certainly fathom it in principal.

The great wave surf